The backpedaling of 'It was just a joke!" is strong here,

  • Zier@fedia.io
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    10 hours ago

    Well when putin and his government run America, you will be required to speak Russian, so… ‘press 1 for English’ will still be a menu option. And, I’ve never met a ‘conservative’ who wasn’t racist.

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    I got robbed by knife the other day and the first thing my trump loving uncle said was it was from those darn illegals. Meanwhile the real culript was a messed up mentally ill local white dude because the country doesn’t take mental illness issues seriously.

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    English isn’t even the official language of the United States — we don’t have an official language.

    Various states have official languages (19 states + DC don’t have any official language); of these states, English is indeed official, with a few states also recognizing native languages as official alongside English.

    Of course that’s beside the point, as even calling this sort of racism “thinly veiled” would be far too charitable.

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    America not having any official language is intentional.

    I think English might have been 3rd choice after “none” and French, but it’s possible German was even beating it.

    Just out of principle, they didn’t want to be identified with England by using their language.

    Pre-emptive edit before someone tries to argue English is official:

    https://www.usa.gov/official-language-of-us

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      But it’s a government website, so you know, part of the cabal covering up the truth

      Obligatory sad /s

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    14 hours ago

    Meanwhile all the people they’re bitching about are here LEGALLY. The illegals are keeping corporate labor costs down. They won’t send them away.

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    12 hours ago

    …we’ve always had a second language? Hell, what it’s been has changed a few times. I’ve lived in towns where the newspaper used to be in German.

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    13 hours ago

    LOL not a single word of complaint about the corporations outsourcing their call centers to 3rd world countries, if they even have human beings answer the phone in the first place

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      Since when are illegals the only people who don’t speak English?

      They’re not.

      So if you think deporting “illegals” will mean you don’t have to hear any Spanish etc, you are actually conflating this with deporting basically all foreigners and that is racist. All foreigners are not “illegals”

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        It’s not even foreigners necessarily. There are millions of people who were born in the US that speak a non-English language as their primary language. In fact many of these communities have been here longer than English speakers have been, including native people and the Spanish-speaking inhabitants of territory the US annexed from Mexico, which includes the entire southwest region.

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        Since when are illegals the only people who don’t speak English?

        Jesus he used a hyperbole. Is this too subtle?

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          Is this too subtle?

          Says the person who doesn’t understand the dehumanizing connotation of calling people “illegals”

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            There’s nothing dehumanizing in it. If you crossed the border illegally, then you’re illegal [immigrant].

            Plain and simple. No hidden context here

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              No hidden context here

              Proceeds to put hidden context in brackets.

              That’s the point of dehumanizing language chief, you intentionally leave the part out that they’re human beings.

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              trump’s been legally found to be a rapist…

              Are you ok with people reducing him to that and only referring to him as an “illegal fornicater”?

              If someone crosses the border illegally, that has nothing to do with immigration which is a legal process.

              Reducing it to “illegal immigrants” makes people question any immigration

              And if you think “illegal fornicater” sounds stupid, yeah, that’s what the point is. “Illegal immigrants” doesn’t make any logical sense if you know what both words mean.

              Unfortunately, that’s not the strong suit of most of the people who use it. And since the only other group is outright racists…

              Well, I was about to say someone who uses that label should be able to understand why people have trouble figuring out which group they’re in.

              But that would require a shred of empathy and understanding how others think…

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              But even ignoring the hyperbole (ie never again = much less) it is still clearly implying that people who don’t speak English are illegals. Of course that is dehumanizing. And obviously false, designed to conflate non English speakers with people who crossed the border illegally.

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                Also many (most?) of them crossed the border legally. They just stayed here illegally.

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      Wanting to deport someone for the color of their skin is fundamentally racist, because immigration, broadly, is a victimless crime.

      What is “illegal” is not necessarily always immoral, and with the evidence we have available to us surrounding the effects of immigration, they create more jobs, spend more in the economy, produce more tax revenue, do less crime, and take less benefits.

      Deporting “illegals” harms the economy, breaks apart communities, and punishes people for a victimless crime, all because some people are afraid that their neighbor might have a little more pigment in their skin, or use different words sometimes.