Since April 2022, 110,000 migrants have come to New York, with 10,000 arriving a month, largely bused here to the Port Authority terminal by conservative leaders from border states like Texas, in a political dispute about border security.

The surge has forced city officials to open more than 200 emergency sites to house migrants, after its traditional shelters became overwhelmed. And schools are feeling the strain as well.

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    Ah yes, the cruelty and harm strawman again. This isn’t about hurting anyone, it’s about showing just how big of a problem dealing with them crossing illegally is. Apparently they can trek all the way up from wherever the fuck but the second you transport them to where democrats actually have to deal with the problem suddenly their movement is a problem.

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      Texas could reduce immigration demand unilaterally by prosecuting people who hire undocumented workers.

      They don’t, because they want a permanent underclass to exploit.

      This is a stunt for the base to make it look like the GOP hates the status quo, but this is the system that they’ve intended all along: it provides cheap labor for their donors and red meat for the people who hate immigrants and cities. They’re playing both sides of their coalition.

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          But they don’t do it.

          Which is my point.

          Because it’s about creating a permanent underclass.

          So you’re being used.

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            So let’s hold hands and sing in front of some candles while some signs are being shown saying make any hiring or helping or even any conversing with illegal aliens a felony. Where will we hold this vigil?

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              You seem like a very serious person who has thought deeply about this issue.

              My favorite part is how I explained twice how Republican politicians are not interested in fixing this and you refuse to engage with it either time.

              That’s the conservative calling card: pretend like you’ve got everything figured out, and when the obvious flaws are pointed out to you just pretend like we’re talking about something else.

              Yes, I’m sure you’re a very serious and intellectually honest person who just needs to switch topics for very good reasons other than having no rebuttal.

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                You said your point was something wasn’t being done, I said let’s do something to get it done. I’m sorry if you don’t actually want that thing done, my mistake for assuming you meant what you said.

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                  And here I thought your philosophy was

                  Being intentionally obtuse doesn’t help anything

                  But Republicans always think they get a special exception, so that tracks after all.

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                    But they don’t do it.

                    Which is my point.

                    So to be clear, you do or don’t want it to be illegal to hire illegals?

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      How is it a strawman when it really is cruel and harmful?

      It is about hurting both the migrants and Democrats. As is typical for Republicans, the cruelty is the point.

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        How are the migrants worse off than they were at the town that didn’t want them?

        If democrats want open borders they’re welcome to have them, so long as they take in the crossers.

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          Because their own choices matter — they went to that destination to be with their families and friends or to fill job opportunities they found. They are actual people with real feelings and ignoring their decisions to move them thousands of miles against their will as a political stunt is definitional cruelty.

          If you don’t want immigrants in your town, you should move. Spoiler alert though, there are immigrants going to every town in the US. So you might have to leave the country and immigrate somewhere else.

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            They don’t get choices, what part of illegal do you not understand? They should get sent straight back, but if liberals want them they can have them in their cities.

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              So you actually do acknowledge it’s cruel and harmful, you simply don’t care because you believe they deserve it?

              You are an awful person.

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                Being intentionally obtuse doesn’t help anything, but at least from your above comment we agree that New York and other Democrat cities can and should take them.

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      I don’t think you know what the term strawman means, but I’ll leave that aside.

      Physically harming others and intentional causing chaos to prove a point isn’t something a functional governing body should do. We return to cruelty is the point. This isn’t about solving any sort of issue or assisting the fabricated issue of boarder towns in chaos (citation needed). The singular goal is cause harm onto others and feel vindicated by causing that harm.

      Democrats currently have continued most if not all of the previous standards at the boarder. Please cite a single open US boarder. Where is this open boarder that people can walk accross without any sort of harm or law breaking? I suppose Canada is relatively loosey goosey but no one is worried of that. They can bring maple syrup and affordable Healthcare all theyd like.