• darvocet@infosec.pub
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    … but it’s just a few bad apples. Most cops are very fine people.

    Edit: /s Jesus

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        I was hopeful the two separate clues - “just a few bad apples” plus “very fine people on both sides” would be a banger. Maybe it was just too good.

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          Nah it’s because there are people who actually believe that shit so it’s hard to gauge sarcasm.

          It’s a lot like how people make jokes about landlords. A lot of the people are being sarcastic but there’s enough of them that are serious that you can’t really tell the difference.

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      The original intent of that metaphor is correct in your use, but it’s rarely recognized. It began as “a rotten apple quickly infects its neighbor.” Over time, it became “one bad apple ruins the bunch.” Now it’s used as just “one bad apple” to infer minimal or selective corruption, completely discrediting the point of the analogy.

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        It’s also worth noting the implication of the full phrase. If you remove the bad apples quickly enough, then you can save the rest. If you can remove the corrupt elements, then you can protect the group overall. If you leave them to fester then you’ll have a lot more cutting required to clean up.

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        The problem that brings up the idea of no good cops is, if these 23 other cops are good, and this one is bad, why is there still the bad cop? Why do the other 23 not push that bad cop out?

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      It’s kind of ironic that you had to add the /s since most people never think to finish the adage.

      A few bad apples spoil the bunch

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        Like “pull yourself up by your bootstraps”, its full meaning has been cut off in order to support the opposite point.

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    Can we take a second to appreciate that those hands were drawn very well? Like, most times I draw a hand, it just ends up looking like a stupid blob, but this poster has gotten the shape and proportions pretty decently. And not just once, but twice. Good.

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    Even worse. The police has both the authority and the budget to:

    1. Test candidates before they hire them as cops.
    2. Train their cops.
    3. Discipline the violent cops.

    Protest organizers can’t do these things. Anyone who wants to join the protest just needs to arrive at the appointed time and place, and if they behave badly - the ones allowed to punish them are not the protest organizers but the police.

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    Its even more true when the most violent in a protest are working with the cops or are cops themselves.

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    i support this sign and its artist but someone needs to teach them forearm anatomy they kind of said

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      Yes! I was actually admiring the artistry of the fists and the shadowing and everything and then I followed it down to the shapeless skinny forearms. looks like they put all their effort into the fists and couldn’t be bothered to make realistic looking forearms

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    Fine message, but if you have 33 words on your protest sign you’re really missing the mark.

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      At least they got the words neatly written and balanced on the cardboard, and the fists are drawn better than on your average cardboard sign.

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        Facts. The amount of horribly, illegibly scrawled messages you see at protests. Luckily the worst offenders don’t tend to make it onto social media, understandably.

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        You’re making a sign, not writing the abstract to a political science paper. You get like a dozen syllables, max.

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          Maybe when we didn’t have phones to constantly take photos, but you could literally take a picture of many “too long” signs and read them at your own pace.

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            literally! the internet and photo sharing has become so important to activism and protest

            this account is either a silly troll or is choosing to die on a very short and soggy hill

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              As I just did with the post yes. Someone took a picture of the sign to look at later, and I enjoyed it.

              Now imagine taking a picture of a bunch of signs at once.

              Edit: it’s like, you can go to a museum and take a picture of a long description then go sit down nearby. I like looking at things but your boys got back problems haha

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      am I the only one who counted? it’s only 25. you could have used the real number you lazy ass.

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      internet users be like, i can’t read anything longer than a short tweet actually

      edit: also ignoring that this poster made it to the internet and got >1k reads and counting on one platform alone. 😛 epitome of nitpicking the unnecessary

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      Meanwhile someone else is upvoted for “If your beliefs fit on a sign, think harder.”

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      People don’t stop being people just because they’re wearing different clothes, you goober.

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    So close to being self aware. What happens when you reverse the roles with the same logic then? Judging a police force for their most violent cops but not judging a demonstration for their most violent participants is what? Are you suddenly a ‘freedom fighter’ because you believe your cause is just? History proves the worst people always think their path forward is the righteous one. I really wish we’d stop getting distracted by this shit and fight against the real oppressors of us all: The wealthy.

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        I’m 14 and that’s deep. Way to sidestep the actual point.

        The counter to hypocrisy is to be principled, yet that sign seems to accuse people of the exact thing it represents. I’ll ask again, if your enemies are oppressors, does that make you a self-claimed freedom fighter? Rebel? Or something less flattering - Terrorist.

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          yeah grabbing the hammer is a remarkably wise plan as far as self defense in this hypothetical

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            Wonderful, then you’d agree we should get rid of all hammers then too right? Clearly it’s the fault of the tool, not the one wielding it.

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                Yeah it’s hard to stay consistent when warped logic is applied to different scenarios. I’ll spell it out for you, Mr. White.

                If a murderer uses a hammer to murder, you don’t ban hammers, you go after the murderer. So then why when the wealthy use the police as a tool, you try to ban police, instead of going after the wealthy?

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                  breh you asked what we do if a man hits me on the head with a hammer

                  my genuine immediate reaction would be to wrestle the hammer out of control of the man

                  but for some reason you think that my first reaction, being in imminent danger of immediate injury and death, is to start canvassing the neighborhood? gathering signatures to ban hammers from the local Lowes or something? meanwhile the guy with the hammer still has his hammer and is beating the shit out of me. i actually would not do that.

                  i’m being quite consistent where you are being quite silly 😛

                  edit: also no one said “instead” but you. pardon me for not taking this seriously i just don’t care (about your messed up hypothetical; i care deeply about institutional violence)